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The Rams did a lot of things right this off-season!

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Recognizing Kupp probably wasn't the answer and making that super tough decision to let him go was really smart

Immediately replacing him with Adams another very smart decision.

Acquiring a huge run stuffer in Poona Ford and letting Brown walk was another great move.

Resigning Stafford and Jimmy G to solidify the QB position elevates are chances

The draft I really like what Les did quality over quantity plus solidifying several key backup positions. Hoecht left in FA and drafting a strong OLB was really smart thinking. With Higby always injured Ferguson will really help. Getting Paul and even Dolac will make the ILBs stronger. Rotational depth at RB and DL made both positions deeper.

Signing a KR/PR something that has gone by the wayside in past years thought in getting better improved the STs.

After June 1 I would like to see a CB upgrade and backup T but T takes precedent. Our backup T was Noteboom and he wasn't good we must must must upgrade the position.

Overall Les and his team and McVay and his team really did a masterful job at shoring up and improving the team bravo!
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malibu wrote: May 14th, 2025, 9:41 am Recognizing Kupp probably wasn't the answer and making that super tough decision to let him go was really smart

Immediately replacing him with Adams another very smart decision.

Acquiring a huge run stuffer in Poona Ford and letting Brown walk was another great move.

Resigning Stafford and Jimmy G to solidify the QB position elevates are chances

The draft I really like what Les did quality over quantity plus solidifying several key backup positions. Hoecht left in FA and drafting a strong OLB was really smart thinking. With Higby always injured Ferguson will really help. Getting Paul and even Dolac will make the ILBs stronger. Rotational depth at RB and DL made both positions deeper.

Signing a KR/PR something that has gone by the wayside in past years thought in getting better improved the STs.

After June 1 I would like to see a CB upgrade and backup T but T takes precedent. Our backup T was Noteboom and he wasn't good we must must must upgrade the position.

Overall Les and his team and McVay and his team really did a masterful job at shoring up and improving the team bravo!
like everything you said but IMO not addressing the OL in the draft could come back and bite them in the ass. we have very little margin for error with this group
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Rams finally made it through a offseason without drastically overpaying for anyone.
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Cornell29 wrote: May 14th, 2025, 10:45 am
Rams finally made it through a offseason without drastically overpaying for anyone.
Unless Les Snead decides to give up both of our team's 2026 first-round draft selections for Jalen Ramsey next month.

Obviously that's hyperbole, however I'm still worried about the McVay/Snead regime 'overpaying' to acquire the guy, after all the Dolphins already outbargained the Rams once involving a trade for him.

Hopefully our team will let Ramsey be someone else's problem this year... :? ;) :x

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ocram23 wrote: May 14th, 2025, 9:51 am
malibu wrote: May 14th, 2025, 9:41 am Recognizing Kupp probably wasn't the answer and making that super tough decision to let him go was really smart

Immediately replacing him with Adams another very smart decision.

Acquiring a huge run stuffer in Poona Ford and letting Brown walk was another great move.

Resigning Stafford and Jimmy G to solidify the QB position elevates are chances

The draft I really like what Les did quality over quantity plus solidifying several key backup positions. Hoecht left in FA and drafting a strong OLB was really smart thinking. With Higby always injured Ferguson will really help. Getting Paul and even Dolac will make the ILBs stronger. Rotational depth at RB and DL made both positions deeper.

Signing a KR/PR something that has gone by the wayside in past years thought in getting better improved the STs.

After June 1 I would like to see a CB upgrade and backup T but T takes precedent. Our backup T was Noteboom and he wasn't good we must must must upgrade the position.

Overall Les and his team and McVay and his team really did a masterful job at shoring up and improving the team bravo!
like everything you said but IMO not addressing the OL in the draft could come back and bite them in the ass. we have very little margin for error with this group
I did forget to add adding Shelton helps the interior of the line. Yes we must address a true solid veteran backup Tackle think like a Jimmy G only a tackle. Jimmy G gives me a sense of security if Stafford goes down. I do really worry if Alaric or Rob go down so addressing this early and TBH I feel it is more important than CB because everyone is coming back in the CB room. Before I kept saying CB is the #1 priority but insuring Stafford doesn't miss a beat to me is even more crucial.
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Commish wrote: May 14th, 2025, 2:21 pm
Cornell29 wrote: May 14th, 2025, 10:45 am
Rams finally made it through a offseason without drastically overpaying for anyone.
Unless Les Snead decides to give up both of our team's 2026 first-round draft selections for Jalen Ramsey next month.

Obviously that's hyperbole, however I'm still worried about the McVay/Snead regime 'overpaying' to acquire the guy, after all the Dolphins already outbargained the Rams once involving a trade for him.

Hopefully our team will let Ramsey be someone else's problem this year... :? ;) :x

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Agreed. We have made it out without a crazy deal. More that I have thought of Ramsey and his cost versus others potentially out there I say wait it out see where the market shakes out. Neither Ramsey nor Miami want to be together. Miami due to cost of Ramsey and probably feel he is not worth what they are stuck paying him and Ramsey the bloom has washed off the onion and he sees Miami/Tua are going nowhere and feels the Rams extend his career by a couple years.

Must find a backup RTthough.
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malibu wrote: May 14th, 2025, 4:07 pm
ocram23 wrote: May 14th, 2025, 9:51 am

like everything you said but IMO not addressing the OL in the draft could come back and bite them in the ass. we have very little margin for error with this group
I did forget to add adding Shelton helps the interior of the line. Yes we must address a true solid veteran backup Tackle think like a Jimmy G only a tackle. Jimmy G gives me a sense of security if Stafford goes down. I do really worry if Alaric or Rob go down so addressing this early and TBH I feel it is more important than CB because everyone is coming back in the CB room. Before I kept saying CB is the #1 priority but insuring Stafford doesn't miss a beat to me is even more crucial.
meant to say OT position not OL. I think we are fine with the interior part.
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The Rams would be fools to bring Ramsey in

Overrated cancer finger pointing at others as he trails whatever WR into the end zone,seen that more than a handful of times when he was here,then when he ain’t feeling his contract anymore makes a stink to go elsewhere
Please don’t bring him here again
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I think we aint done yet.
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Amazing job by the fo this off season. Only concern is OT. We have depth at center and guard but I am not sure who they are going to do when hav or AJ goes down. It seems Our current back ups will not be up to the task just like last year.
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brasilrams wrote: May 16th, 2025, 10:07 pm Only concern is OT. We have depth at center and guard but I am not sure who they are going to do when hav or AJ goes down. It seems Our current back ups will not be up to the task just like last year.
Agreed and the answer is… Seasoned Vets.

These are glaring holes and Rams know we need more help in these spots. Rams have to be waiting for cuts from other teams that can’t afford to keep them…. So we’ll see some quality guys come June 1.
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Agreed. Next up is an OT vet. We need one. Ramsey at CB only if we can get a deal.
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I would have preferred letting Stafford play out 2025 without a 2026 extension, and getting a priority OT instead of a 3rd TE/RB in the draft. I do like Ford, Adams for Kupp is whatever it’s 1 year, resigning AJ was the best deal they did.

Overall I don’t think they wasted money or vastly overpaid anyone. Getting a 1st next year is shrewd. It’s hard to fill every hole in one offseason.
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Truth wrote: May 19th, 2025, 7:10 pm I would have preferred letting Stafford play out 2025 without a 2026 extension
Issue w this Truth, is that all signs pointed to Matt sitting out, and Kelly blowing up her podcast about how the Rams dont treat their own very well... and so on and so forth... Rams just didnt want a PR issues nor disgruntled QB to deal w. That would have turned so much around w this team, the talk going into the season would have been about all the drama of him sitting out, while the Rams want to focus on the season.

Rams also knew there was no better option than Matt in getting us back into the SB.

I mean, we were basically one play away from making the chip this past season, and that was with a lot of new blood, Kupp injured most of the time and our CB's sucking... Now, it seems we have plugged up these holes, especially w the OL (minus depth)... but, IMO, Les and Kronk saw a team on the verge of winning another ring... So they took it (plus the Stafford contract isn't that bad, and it told me a lot that he left maybe $20-25M on the table because he chose us over the other bigger offers.
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DelMar wrote: May 20th, 2025, 8:46 am
Truth wrote: May 19th, 2025, 7:10 pm I would have preferred letting Stafford play out 2025 without a 2026 extension
Issue w this Truth, is that all signs pointed to Matt sitting out, and Kelly blowing up her podcast about how the Rams dont treat their own very well... and so on and so forth... Rams just didnt want a PR issues nor disgruntled QB to deal w. That would have turned so much around w this team, the talk going into the season would have been about all the drama of him sitting out, while the Rams want to focus on the season.

Rams also knew there was no better option than Matt in getting us back into the SB.

I mean, we were basically one play away from making the chip this past season, and that was with a lot of new blood, Kupp injured most of the time and our CB's sucking... Now, it seems we have plugged up these holes, especially w the OL (minus depth)... but, IMO, Les and Kronk saw a team on the verge of winning another ring... So they took it (plus the Stafford contract isn't that bad, and it told me a lot that he left maybe $20-25M on the table because he chose us over the other bigger offers.
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Who was the last NFL player that sat out the season and wouldn’t play for his signed contract tho? Emmitt Smith sat a few games like 30+ years ago. I don’t even think that was any risk. If Stafford just retires, well ok Jimmy G is QB. 2025 isn’t a situation where the Rams should be all in so they do anything it takes to get Stafford back. He was like the 12th best QB last year at best and he’d be another year older. I mean Jimmy got to a Super Bowl with the 49ers if all you want is an average QB that the rest of the team helps carry.

If anything the situation would have been like AD where he’d sit out camp but show up to start the season. And you wouldn’t have to sacrifice anything in 2026.

I think having a Rookie on a Rookie deal in 2026 is way better for the team than allocating $50 mils in 2026 to a very old Stafford. Even if Stafford was an average QB in 2026, I wouldn’t want to pay him $50 mil.

And you need to look at the entire season of 2024. Rams were overall an average team both in point differential and yardage. This isn’t some team that is one player away. Vegas certainly doesn’t see it that way.

I think the Rams sacrificed a ton of flexibility in 2026 to chase something in 2025 that I don’t think Stafford makes them that much closer to than Jimmy would have.

I know NFL is much stricter cap than NBA, but insisting Stafford is the missing piece and paying him franchise QB money AT HIS AGE is as delusional as the Lakers giving Lebron another $60 mil for each 40+ year old season. They both aren’t winning with those guys even if they each can still play. But Lakers fans delude themselves into thinking “what else can we do…we beat OKC in the regular season we are so close”… ugh no. Not close at all. But the Rams at least had a fallback in Jimmy.
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Truth wrote: May 28th, 2025, 9:26 pm
DelMar wrote: May 20th, 2025, 8:46 am

Issue w this Truth, is that all signs pointed to Matt sitting out, and Kelly blowing up her podcast about how the Rams dont treat their own very well... and so on and so forth... Rams just didnt want a PR issues nor disgruntled QB to deal w. That would have turned so much around w this team, the talk going into the season would have been about all the drama of him sitting out, while the Rams want to focus on the season.

Rams also knew there was no better option than Matt in getting us back into the SB.

I mean, we were basically one play away from making the chip this past season, and that was with a lot of new blood, Kupp injured most of the time and our CB's sucking... Now, it seems we have plugged up these holes, especially w the OL (minus depth)... but, IMO, Les and Kronk saw a team on the verge of winning another ring... So they took it (plus the Stafford contract isn't that bad, and it told me a lot that he left maybe $20-25M on the table because he chose us over the other bigger offers.
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Who was the last NFL player that sat out the season and wouldn’t play for his signed contract tho? Emmitt Smith sat a few games like 30+ years ago. I don’t even think that was any risk. If Stafford just retires, well ok Jimmy G is QB. 2025 isn’t a situation where the Rams should be all in so they do anything it takes to get Stafford back. He was like the 12th best QB last year at best and he’d be another year older. I mean Jimmy got to a Super Bowl with the 49ers if all you want is an average QB that the rest of the team helps carry.

If anything the situation would have been like AD where he’d sit out camp but show up to start the season. And you wouldn’t have to sacrifice anything in 2026.

I think having a Rookie on a Rookie deal in 2026 is way better for the team than allocating $50 mils in 2026 to a very old Stafford. Even if Stafford was an average QB in 2026, I wouldn’t want to pay him $50 mil.

And you need to look at the entire season of 2024. Rams were overall an average team both in point differential and yardage. This isn’t some team that is one player away. Vegas certainly doesn’t see it that way.

I think the Rams sacrificed a ton of flexibility in 2026 to chase something in 2025 that I don’t think Stafford makes them that much closer to than Jimmy would have.

I know NFL is much stricter cap than NBA, but insisting Stafford is the missing piece and paying him franchise QB money AT HIS AGE is as delusional as the Lakers giving Lebron another $60 mil for each 40+ year old season. They both aren’t winning with those guys even if they each can still play. But Lakers fans delude themselves into thinking “what else can we do…we beat OKC in the regular season we are so close”… ugh no. Not close at all. But the Rams at least had a fallback in Jimmy.
Some thoughts ...

• Jimmy G is no Matthew Stafford. Come on now

• Sure maybe Matt would have played, but it would have been too much drama. Kelly Stafford already started back then, could you image if we went into the season w her and Matt not being happy. Would have been a crap show.

• I think Matt plays in '26 and it will be his last seasons. Why? We will draft a new QB that Matt will take under his wing. Matt wont walk away from the type on contact he has. So, Matt gets $50M and Rookie gets $2M. Jimmy G could even still be around for his low cost. If you combine all 3 of their deals, it's still a lot less than the top 5 QB's will be making in '26.

• I have looked at '24 season, and yes, we were average on a lot of things... but we also experienced a ton of growing pains, especially w the D and OL. Took us 5 games to figure out who goes where on the OL alone. But you cant sit there and say how average we were when we were literally ONE play away from being back in SB. Truth, you have to see this my man... Rams have been known to play at any team they played, level.

• Dont even get me started on the Lakers and giving Lebron that kind of money. Lebron has destroyed the Lakers. Cannot stand the guy one bit. Ms Buss just loves Lebron and thinks they have to have him. I dont know why. Ledumb is a moron and way over the hill. His ego alone kills it.
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DelMar wrote: May 20th, 2025, 8:46 am
Truth wrote: May 19th, 2025, 7:10 pm I would have preferred letting Stafford play out 2025 without a 2026 extension
Issue w this Truth, is that all signs pointed to Matt sitting out, and Kelly blowing up her podcast about how the Rams dont treat their own very well... and so on and so forth... Rams just didnt want a PR issues nor disgruntled QB to deal w. That would have turned so much around w this team, the talk going into the season would have been about all the drama of him sitting out, while the Rams want to focus on the season.

Rams also knew there was no better option than Matt in getting us back into the SB.

I mean, we were basically one play away from making the chip this past season, and that was with a lot of new blood, Kupp injured most of the time and our CB's sucking... Now, it seems we have plugged up these holes, especially w the OL (minus depth)... but, IMO, Les and Kronk saw a team on the verge of winning another ring... So they took it (plus the Stafford contract isn't that bad, and it told me a lot that he left maybe $20-25M on the table because he chose us over the other bigger offers.
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Not to mention Stafford is still a top 5 QB…why would you not want to sign him for 2 years? Crazy talk.
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Bulldawg wrote: May 29th, 2025, 1:19 pm
DelMar wrote: May 20th, 2025, 8:46 am

Issue w this Truth, is that all signs pointed to Matt sitting out, and Kelly blowing up her podcast about how the Rams dont treat their own very well... and so on and so forth... Rams just didnt want a PR issues nor disgruntled QB to deal w. That would have turned so much around w this team, the talk going into the season would have been about all the drama of him sitting out, while the Rams want to focus on the season.

Rams also knew there was no better option than Matt in getting us back into the SB.

I mean, we were basically one play away from making the chip this past season, and that was with a lot of new blood, Kupp injured most of the time and our CB's sucking... Now, it seems we have plugged up these holes, especially w the OL (minus depth)... but, IMO, Les and Kronk saw a team on the verge of winning another ring... So they took it (plus the Stafford contract isn't that bad, and it told me a lot that he left maybe $20-25M on the table because he chose us over the other bigger offers.
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Not to mention Stafford is still a top 5 QB…why would you not want to sign him for 2 years? Crazy talk.
Dude I don’t think Stafford has ever been a top 5 QB at any point in his entire career. If he was, the Lions certainly wouldn’t have been as terrible as they were during his tenure. A legit top 5 QB elevates his teams.

Mahomes,Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Daniels, Joe Burrow…nobody is taking 38+ year old Stafford over them. I guess you would. But non-biased opinions..Stafford has always been in that above average QB layer. Not a top top guy
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Truth wrote: June 7th, 2025, 8:14 pm
Bulldawg wrote: May 29th, 2025, 1:19 pm

Not to mention Stafford is still a top 5 QB…why would you not want to sign him for 2 years? Crazy talk.
Dude I don’t think Stafford has ever been a top 5 QB at any point in his entire career. If he was, the Lions certainly wouldn’t have been as terrible as they were during his tenure. A legit top 5 QB elevates his teams.

Mahomes,Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Daniels..nobody is taking 38+ year old Stafford over them. I guess you would. But non-biased opinions..Stafford has always been in that above average QB layer. Not a top top guy
Definitely have to push back on that.

Never been a top 5 QB? (at any point of his career). The Lions were the Lions, but fans there (that REALLY watched him) knew he was special...but don't take the fans word for it, he's absolutely a players player, i.e., I'm not sure I've seen a player receive more respect from follow players around the League. Dude is/was special.

So yeah the Lions...what did Stafford do his first year away from them? Oh yeah, world champ just like that. And who was better in the playoffs during that run? Not top 5 EVER you say? He was the number one QB on the planet at that time without doubt.

Even at his age now, honestly, have you ever seen a tougher QB? Seriously I haven't. As well, yes he's as clutch as it gets. Doesn't lift his team?...beyond the aforementioned Super Bowl run, how about what he did against his former team in the playoffs two years ago? He 100% carried the Rams in a game it looked like they had every right to get blown out. Pretty impressive at Philly this year too.

We are definitely looking at two different players...
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RamPower wrote: June 7th, 2025, 9:00 pm
Truth wrote: June 7th, 2025, 8:14 pm

Dude I don’t think Stafford has ever been a top 5 QB at any point in his entire career. If he was, the Lions certainly wouldn’t have been as terrible as they were during his tenure. A legit top 5 QB elevates his teams.

Mahomes,Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Daniels..nobody is taking 38+ year old Stafford over them. I guess you would. But non-biased opinions..Stafford has always been in that above average QB layer. Not a top top guy
Definitely have to push back on that.

Never been a top 5 QB? (at any point of his career). The Lions were the Lions, but fans there (that REALLY watched him) knew he was special...but don't take the fans word for it, he's absolutely a players player, i.e., I'm not sure I've seen a player receive more respect from follow players around the League. Dude is/was special.

So yeah the Lions...what did Stafford do his first year away from them? Oh yeah, world champ just like that. And who was better in the playoffs during that run? Not top 5 EVER you say? He was the number one QB on the planet at that time without doubt.

Even at his age now, honestly, have you ever seen a tougher QB? Seriously I haven't. As well, yes he's as clutch as it gets. Doesn't lift his team?...beyond the aforementioned Super Bowl run, how about what he did against his former team in the playoffs two years ago? He 100% carried the Rams in a game it looked like they had every right to get blown out. Pretty impressive at Philly this year too.

We are definitely looking at two different players...
I would agree... there were times in his career were he was top 3 for sure... just didn't have the team around him to go anywhere. Today he is definitely top 10 and with a few things going his way (e.g. young QBs dropping off) he could crack top 5 again.
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RamPower wrote: June 7th, 2025, 9:00 pm
Truth wrote: June 7th, 2025, 8:14 pm

Dude I don’t think Stafford has ever been a top 5 QB at any point in his entire career. If he was, the Lions certainly wouldn’t have been as terrible as they were during his tenure. A legit top 5 QB elevates his teams.

Mahomes,Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Daniels..nobody is taking 38+ year old Stafford over them. I guess you would. But non-biased opinions..Stafford has always been in that above average QB layer. Not a top top guy
Definitely have to push back on that.

Never been a top 5 QB? (at any point of his career). The Lions were the Lions, but fans there (that REALLY watched him) knew he was special...but don't take the fans word for it, he's absolutely a players player, i.e., I'm not sure I've seen a player receive more respect from follow players around the League. Dude is/was special.

So yeah the Lions...what did Stafford do his first year away from them? Oh yeah, world champ just like that. And who was better in the playoffs during that run? Not top 5 EVER you say? He was the number one QB on the planet at that time without doubt.

Even at his age now, honestly, have you ever seen a tougher QB? Seriously I haven't. As well, yes he's as clutch as it gets. Doesn't lift his team?...beyond the aforementioned Super Bowl run, how about what he did against his former team in the playoffs two years ago? He 100% carried the Rams in a game it looked like they had every right to get blown out. Pretty impressive at Philly this year too.

We are definitely looking at two different players...
Dude Nick Foles went on a heater in the playoffs and won a ring. Playing 3 playoff games is great, but it doesn’t mean you are a top 5 QB.

I’m talking about for a full season, Stafford has never been a top 5 QB in any season. Never.

When he was in his prime, Brady/Rodgers/Brees were all better.

And you can’t say “oh it’s the Lions”. I mean Goff has won way more games for the Lions than Stafford ever did. Is Goff a top 5 QB? No.
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Truth wrote: June 8th, 2025, 3:19 am
RamPower wrote: June 7th, 2025, 9:00 pm

Definitely have to push back on that.

Never been a top 5 QB? (at any point of his career). The Lions were the Lions, but fans there (that REALLY watched him) knew he was special...but don't take the fans word for it, he's absolutely a players player, i.e., I'm not sure I've seen a player receive more respect from follow players around the League. Dude is/was special.

So yeah the Lions...what did Stafford do his first year away from them? Oh yeah, world champ just like that. And who was better in the playoffs during that run? Not top 5 EVER you say? He was the number one QB on the planet at that time without doubt.

Even at his age now, honestly, have you ever seen a tougher QB? Seriously I haven't. As well, yes he's as clutch as it gets. Doesn't lift his team?...beyond the aforementioned Super Bowl run, how about what he did against his former team in the playoffs two years ago? He 100% carried the Rams in a game it looked like they had every right to get blown out. Pretty impressive at Philly this year too.

We are definitely looking at two different players...
Dude Nick Foles went on a heater in the playoffs and won a ring. Playing 3 playoff games is great, but it doesn’t mean you are a top 5 QB.

I’m talking about for a full season, Stafford has never been a top 5 QB in any season. Never.

When he was in his prime, Brady/Rodgers/Brees were all better.

And you can’t say “oh it’s the Lions”. I mean Goff has won way more games for the Lions than Stafford ever did. Is Goff a top 5 QB? No.
That's fine. I mean Foles got hot sure (always had the skills to do so), but regardless still didn't impress me near the level that Stafford did in the 2021/22 playoffs. Losing OBJ and having virtually only Kupp and no running game to speak of in the Super Bowl...that last TD drive alone was absolutely epic BUT had come to be expected for an elite clutch player such as Stafford. Not even a hint of "Stafford got hot", as has been mentioned regarding Foles and Flacco say.

So yeah, Stafford was top 5 his first season at LA in my view.
2021 stats: 21 games | 67.7 pct | 6,074 pass yds | 8.2 ypa | 50 pass TD | 20 INT | 85 rush yds | 2 rush TD | 5 fumbles
Yeah it was the 4-game playoff cap that did it for me. Foles or not LOL.
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-r ... nfl-season

Hell yeah I can say oh it's the Lions. Are you actually comparing Stafford's overall Lions rosters with what they have built since - largely from Stafford/Goff trade via draft selections acquired. Seriously? Weak evaluations there. Bottom line, no way Goff wins the Super Bowl in '22 on that Rams roster, regardless of "his" win total with the Lions.
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Truth wrote: June 7th, 2025, 8:14 pm
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Not to mention Stafford is still a top 5 QB…why would you not want to sign him for 2 years? Crazy talk.
Dude I don’t think Stafford has ever been a top 5 QB at any point in his entire career. If he was, the Lions certainly wouldn’t have been as terrible as they were during his tenure. A legit top 5 QB elevates his teams.

Mahomes,Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Daniels..nobody is taking 38+ year old Stafford over them. I guess you would. But non-biased opinions..Stafford has always been in that above average QB layer. Not a top top guy
Dude, try removing your Kurt Warner buttplug for a second, then you might be able to think more clearly.
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RamPower wrote: June 7th, 2025, 9:00 pm
Truth wrote: June 7th, 2025, 8:14 pm

Dude I don’t think Stafford has ever been a top 5 QB at any point in his entire career. If he was, the Lions certainly wouldn’t have been as terrible as they were during his tenure. A legit top 5 QB elevates his teams.

Mahomes,Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Daniels..nobody is taking 38+ year old Stafford over them. I guess you would. But non-biased opinions..Stafford has always been in that above average QB layer. Not a top top guy
Definitely have to push back on that.

Never been a top 5 QB? (at any point of his career). The Lions were the Lions, but fans there (that REALLY watched him) knew he was special...but don't take the fans word for it, he's absolutely a players player, i.e., I'm not sure I've seen a player receive more respect from follow players around the League. Dude is/was special.

So yeah the Lions...what did Stafford do his first year away from them? Oh yeah, world champ just like that. And who was better in the playoffs during that run? Not top 5 EVER you say? He was the number one QB on the planet at that time without doubt.

Even at his age now, honestly, have you ever seen a tougher QB? Seriously I haven't. As well, yes he's as clutch as it gets. Doesn't lift his team?...beyond the aforementioned Super Bowl run, how about what he did against his former team in the playoffs two years ago? He 100% carried the Rams in a game it looked like they had every right to get blown out. Pretty impressive at Philly this year too.

We are definitely looking at two different players...
Some people will just be haters.
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Truth wrote: June 7th, 2025, 8:14 pm
Bulldawg wrote: May 29th, 2025, 1:19 pm

Not to mention Stafford is still a top 5 QB…why would you not want to sign him for 2 years? Crazy talk.
Dude I don’t think Stafford has ever been a top 5 QB at any point in his entire career. If he was, the Lions certainly wouldn’t have been as terrible as they were during his tenure. A legit top 5 QB elevates his teams.

Mahomes,Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Daniels..nobody is taking 38+ year old Stafford over them. I guess you would. But non-biased opinions..Stafford has always been in that above average QB layer. Not a top top guy
Tell me you don’t know anything about QBs, without telling me you don’t know.

Crazy talk Truth. Not to mention, most people have Stafford over Hurts. Jackson. Allen, Daniel’s don’t have a Super Bowl ring yet either.
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Bulldawg wrote: June 8th, 2025, 4:29 pm
Truth wrote: June 7th, 2025, 8:14 pm

Dude I don’t think Stafford has ever been a top 5 QB at any point in his entire career. If he was, the Lions certainly wouldn’t have been as terrible as they were during his tenure. A legit top 5 QB elevates his teams.

Mahomes,Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Daniels..nobody is taking 38+ year old Stafford over them. I guess you would. But non-biased opinions..Stafford has always been in that above average QB layer. Not a top top guy
Tell me you don’t know anything about QBs, without telling me you don’t know.

Crazy talk Truth. Not to mention, most people have Stafford over Hurts. Jackson. Allen, Daniel’s don’t have a Super Bowl ring yet either.
I truly think Stafford’s going to have a phenomenal year. Davante Adams, Puka…. especially now that we’ve figured out our offensive line situation (still need more depth though)

Greatest show on turf part two. Honestly, think about it.
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Bulldawg wrote: June 8th, 2025, 4:29 pm
Truth wrote: June 7th, 2025, 8:14 pm

Dude I don’t think Stafford has ever been a top 5 QB at any point in his entire career. If he was, the Lions certainly wouldn’t have been as terrible as they were during his tenure. A legit top 5 QB elevates his teams.

Mahomes,Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Daniels..nobody is taking 38+ year old Stafford over them. I guess you would. But non-biased opinions..Stafford has always been in that above average QB layer. Not a top top guy
Tell me you don’t know anything about QBs, without telling me you don’t know.

Crazy talk Truth. Not to mention, most people have Stafford over Hurts. Jackson. Allen, Daniel’s don’t have a Super Bowl ring yet either.
You honestly sound like a delusional Giants fan at the end of Eli Manning’s career
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Truth wrote: June 9th, 2025, 5:21 pm
Bulldawg wrote: June 8th, 2025, 4:29 pm

Tell me you don’t know anything about QBs, without telling me you don’t know.

Crazy talk Truth. Not to mention, most people have Stafford over Hurts. Jackson. Allen, Daniel’s don’t have a Super Bowl ring yet either.
You honestly sound like a delusional Giants fan at the end of Eli Manning’s career
Haha...except most Giants fan's wanted Eli to leave two years before he did. He wasn't a top 20 QB his last 2+ years. Big difference. Anyone in the media will tell you Stafford is top 2-3 in the NFC and within top 7 (if not top 5) in NFL. We are talking this year...not the next 5.

For one year...I could see taking Mahommes, Allen, and maybe Jackson over Stafford. Not every QB can run McVay's offense either.

We will just agree to disagree. I just want a SB this year...not looking to try and get one 3 years from now until we get past the present.
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DelMar wrote: June 8th, 2025, 4:47 pm
Bulldawg wrote: June 8th, 2025, 4:29 pm

Tell me you don’t know anything about QBs, without telling me you don’t know.

Crazy talk Truth. Not to mention, most people have Stafford over Hurts. Jackson. Allen, Daniel’s don’t have a Super Bowl ring yet either.
I truly think Stafford’s going to have a phenomenal year. Davante Adams, Puka…. especially now that we’ve figured out our offensive line situation (still need more depth though)

Greatest show on turf part two. Honestly, think about it.
Completely agree. We just need to avoid injuries. Adams is an improvement over Kupp, and Ferguson should be an improvement over Higbee. At a minimum, he will be better than Higbees backup. We struggle a bit every time Higbee gets hurt.
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Bulldawg wrote: June 10th, 2025, 12:57 pm
Truth wrote: June 9th, 2025, 5:21 pm

You honestly sound like a delusional Giants fan at the end of Eli Manning’s career
Anyone in the media will tell you Stafford is top 2-3 in the NFC and within top 7 (if not top 5) in NFL.
Let’s just look at the stats:

2024: Age 36 (12th in QBR) 15th in Passer Rating)
2023: Age 35 (6th in QBR), 13th in Passer Rating)
2022: Age 34 (23rd in QBR), 22nd in Passer Rating)
2021: Age 33 (4th in QBR), 6th in Passer Rating)

This guy has one great season for the Rams in 2021. Followed by 3 average seasons, one of which he was hurt.


Let’s look at the Rams PPG.

2024: 21.6 (20th)
2023: 23.8 (8th)
2022: 18.1 (23rd)
2021: 27.1 (7th)

I’ve never seen a guy be put on this large of pedestal when the actual stats don’t reflect it at all. What are you seeing?
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