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We see his flaws, but all play callers have their flaws. Mcvay peers says he's the best

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Two words- red zone.
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Jacksnow wrote: September 1st, 2025, 1:45 pm Two words- red zone.
Every coach has their flaws. His peers think his flaws are less then others and his positives are better than others.
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Cornell29 wrote: September 1st, 2025, 3:14 pm
Jacksnow wrote: September 1st, 2025, 1:45 pm Two words- red zone.
Every coach has their flaws. His peers think his flaws are less then others and his positives are better than others.
One name- Jordan Waters. Would he not have been answer for red zone? Is it just me but for past year or two every time Rams sustain a nice drive and get to red zone I get very uncomfortable, sweat profusely, and at times almost lose bladder control. Maybe just me. Now one of you stat nerds contradict me with every time Rams are at the 20 or less they score 85+- % of the time.
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Jacksnow wrote: September 1st, 2025, 4:44 pm
Cornell29 wrote: September 1st, 2025, 3:14 pm

Every coach has their flaws. His peers think his flaws are less then others and his positives are better than others.
One name- Jordan Waters. Would he not have been answer for red zone? Is it just me but for past year or two every time Rams sustain a nice drive and get to red zone I get very uncomfortable, sweat profusely, and at times almost lose bladder control. Maybe just me. Now one of you stat nerds contradict me with every time Rams are at the 20 or less they score 85+- % of the time.

Yeah I agree with that but also sucks because I feel like other than a good down field throw we don’t have the typical “home run” moments as a whole so it’s nerve racking when a nice drive is put together on how it’s going to end! I hope I am wrong this year!!
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MT3homes wrote: September 1st, 2025, 5:19 pm
Jacksnow wrote: September 1st, 2025, 4:44 pm

One name- Jordan Waters. Would he not have been answer for red zone? Is it just me but for past year or two every time Rams sustain a nice drive and get to red zone I get very uncomfortable, sweat profusely, and at times almost lose bladder control. Maybe just me. Now one of you stat nerds contradict me with every time Rams are at the 20 or less they score 85+- % of the time.

Yeah I agree with that but also sucks because I feel like other than a good down field throw we don’t have the typical “home run” moments as a whole so it’s nerve racking when a nice drive is put together on how it’s going to end! I hope I am wrong this year!!
Me too. My wife no longer stand me wetting the coach.
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Wetting the couch?! Jack… get a hold of yourself brother
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DelMar wrote: September 1st, 2025, 5:47 pm Wetting the couch?! Jack… get a hold of yourself brother
Couch!!!!!! I am not into golden showers. I repeat no golden showers. DO NOT PRIVATE MESSAGE ME!!!!
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He's not!

But he's a top 3 coach!
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I think McVay gets the benefit of coaching good but not superstar QBs and thus the coaching gets more acclaim.

If you are coaching the elite of elite QBs most people will devalue the play calling bc of the sheer talent at QB.

Also McVay has lead or used to lead the league in pre-snap movement so that plays into it.

I know last December nobody was suggesting the Rams were outsmarting anyone on offense
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HellRam wrote: September 1st, 2025, 8:09 pm He's not!

But he's a top 3 coach!
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Bulldawg wrote: September 2nd, 2025, 6:21 am
HellRam wrote: September 1st, 2025, 8:09 pm He's not!

But he's a top 3 coach!
Dang HellRam...where have you been? Havn't seen a post from you in a looong time. Hope you have come out of hiding just in time for the season!
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HellRam wrote: September 2nd, 2025, 10:46 am
Bulldawg wrote: September 2nd, 2025, 6:21 am

Dang HellRam...where have you been? Havn't seen a post from you in a looong time. Hope you have come out of hiding just in time for the season!
Had trouble logging in for a while. I'll be around a little bit more. Life is busy these days.
Good, because we miss your diversity, equity and inclusion!

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If you disagree with the nfl executives and coaches who would you change
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Cornell29 wrote: September 2nd, 2025, 2:13 pm If you disagree with the nfl executives and coaches who would you change
I am a little surprised Andy Reid wasn’t higher on the list.
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Cornell29 wrote: September 2nd, 2025, 2:13 pm If you disagree with the nfl executives and coaches who would you change
For me it's Andy Reid. I think he's established himself as the top offensive guy in this league. I would go Shanahan 2nd and its close either either Ben Johnson or McVay 3rd. Zach Taylor and a few others up there as well.

I think McVay is great coach. But reality is as an offensive production alone. You'd be surprised at how few top 5 scoring offenses he's had.
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DelMar wrote: September 2nd, 2025, 1:58 pm
HellRam wrote: September 2nd, 2025, 10:46 am

Had trouble logging in for a while. I'll be around a little bit more. Life is busy these days.
Good, because we miss your diversity, equity and inclusion!

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I'm not even 40 yet but I'll get this figured out lol.

Thank you sir for the sentiment.
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Cornell29 wrote: September 2nd, 2025, 3:49 pm
I think halftime adjustments are his biggest strength. Whenever we are behind I don't have anxiety like I did with every other Rams coach. I have confidence we can turn any game around because of him.
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49RH8R wrote: September 3rd, 2025, 3:52 am
Cornell29 wrote: September 2nd, 2025, 3:49 pm
I think halftime adjustments are his biggest strength. Whenever we are behind I don't have anxiety like I did with every other Rams coach. I have confidence we can turn any game around because of him.
A few season ago, this finally changed. For a few years there, McVay was awful at halftime adjustments (or lack there of) see the SB loss to the pats. He just didn’t adjust. But something happened a couple years ago, where this changed. It was his biggest problem, now… not so much
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If it’s just based on last season, Kingsbury has to be near the top of the list. Look how many points the Commanders scored with a rookie QB.

I think he’s being docked for his Arizona days
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Truth wrote: September 3rd, 2025, 12:16 pm If it’s just based on last season, Kingsbury has to be near the top of the list. Look how many points the Commanders scored with a rookie QB.

I think he’s being docked for his Arizona days
Stefanski should be up there as well. He's taking over for Dorsey after giving up playcalling in 2024.
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Top 3 hc but play caller he might be top 10. Maybe not even that.
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DelMar wrote: September 3rd, 2025, 6:38 am
49RH8R wrote: September 3rd, 2025, 3:52 am

I think halftime adjustments are his biggest strength. Whenever we are behind I don't have anxiety like I did with every other Rams coach. I have confidence we can turn any game around because of him.
A few season ago, this finally changed. For a few years there, McVay was awful at halftime adjustments (or lack there of) see the SB loss to the pats. He just didn’t adjust. But something happened a couple years ago, where this changed. It was his biggest problem, now… not so much
Maybe I'm alone on this but I don't remember that being a huge problem for McVay. His 45-0 record while leading at halftime kind of shows he didn't fall asleep at the wheel at halftime.

And the Pats had the experience and talent and just beat us. It was two all-time greats in Brady and Belichick against a very young and inexperienced McVay and Goff. Our defense was outstanding in that game and almost carried the team.

Anyway, maybe you are right but that doesn't stick out to me.
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49RH8R wrote: September 4th, 2025, 5:57 am
DelMar wrote: September 3rd, 2025, 6:38 am

A few season ago, this finally changed. For a few years there, McVay was awful at halftime adjustments (or lack there of) see the SB loss to the pats. He just didn’t adjust. But something happened a couple years ago, where this changed. It was his biggest problem, now… not so much
Maybe I'm alone on this but I don't remember that being a huge problem for McVay. His 45-0 record while leading at halftime kind of shows he didn't fall asleep at the wheel at halftime.

And the Pats had the experience and talent and just beat us. It was two all-time greats in Brady and Belichick against a very young and inexperienced McVay and Goff. Our defense was outstanding in that game and almost carried the team.

Anyway, maybe you are right but that doesn't stick out to me.

You just said it yourself... "His 45-0 record WHILE LEADING at halftime".

My point was, when we have been down at halftime in years past... we would usually come out w the same schemes/plays. It drove me nuts. And I think what happened was Mike LaFleur and Chris Shula... AND... McVay started to trust these guys and himself (not to get in the way) and let these guys do their jobs. As far the SB loss to the Pats, dont you recall, we came out doing the same damn thing 2nd half. We played too conservative and didnt expand much on riskier plays... (I do think that was because Gurley didnt perform and Sean did not have a ton of confidence in Goff), but still... we didnt change a damn thing in the second half.

As much as McVay is a brilliant coach, he was just 30 years old when he took the helm. Most 30 year olds would implode. I mean look at Lane Kiffin and what he did w the Raiders when he took the HC spot at age 31... we literally imploded, could not handle the pressure. While McVay took it all in and learned... Kiffin has NOW become a great coach and running a top notch college ranked team... but it took him time and being all over the map to get there... McVay I think took it all in, accepted change and that he couldn't do it alone. Maybe Sean even sucked up some pride along the way, but damn.. how far he has come.

I still do think Seans weak spot is the red zone, but nothing like it was in years past. Last year, while we did improve imo, much of those red zone issues I would also put on Stafford. But Matt has done better as well.

I truly think this season (if we stay healthy and Stafford keeps his back together) THIS is the season we repeat in taking it all the way back to the SB.....And no, this not homerism... I just see it all coming together and I have my reasons... too long to explain in the post. So I'll just let the Rams do the talking.

Go Rams.
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DelMar wrote: September 4th, 2025, 7:34 am
49RH8R wrote: September 4th, 2025, 5:57 am

Maybe I'm alone on this but I don't remember that being a huge problem for McVay. His 45-0 record while leading at halftime kind of shows he didn't fall asleep at the wheel at halftime.

And the Pats had the experience and talent and just beat us. It was two all-time greats in Brady and Belichick against a very young and inexperienced McVay and Goff. Our defense was outstanding in that game and almost carried the team.

Anyway, maybe you are right but that doesn't stick out to me.

You just said it yourself... "His 45-0 record WHILE LEADING at halftime".

My point was, when we have been down at halftime in years past... we would usually come out w the same schemes/plays. It drove me nuts. And I think what happened was Mike LaFleur and Chris Shula... AND... McVay started to trust these guys and himself (not to get in the way) and let these guys do their jobs. As far the SB loss to the Pats, dont you recall, we came out doing the same damn thing 2nd half. We played too conservative and didnt expand much on riskier plays... (I do think that was because Gurley didnt perform and Sean did not have a ton of confidence in Goff), but still... we didnt change a damn thing in the second half.

As much as McVay is a brilliant coach, he was just 30 years old when he took the helm. Most 30 year olds would implode. I mean look at Lane Kiffin and what he did w the Raiders when he took the HC spot at age 31... we literally imploded, could not handle the pressure. While McVay took it all in and learned... Kiffin has NOW become a great coach and running a top notch college ranked team... but it took him time and being all over the map to get there... McVay I think took it all in, accepted change and that he couldn't do it alone. Maybe Sean even sucked up some pride along the way, but damn.. how far he has come.

I still do think Seans weak spot is the red zone, but nothing like it was in years past. Last year, while we did improve imo, much of those red zone issues I would also put on Stafford. But Matt has done better as well.

I truly think this season (if we stay healthy and Stafford keeps his back together) THIS is the season we repeat in taking it all the way back to the SB.....And no, this not homerism... I just see it all coming together and I have my reasons... too long to explain in the post. So I'll just let the Rams do the talking.

Go Rams.
I agree with this (and everything else, too). This is probably our strongest roster since our last Super Bowl. The key here is the health of our LT, RT, and Stafford. If those three can stay healthy, we're going deep. Unfortunately, if even one of them goes down, everything changes.

I’m not confident about the depth behind AJ and Hav — and since Hav will go down at some point, I’m concerned. I still have nightmares about our RT/LT replacements from last season. I know some of those guys aren’t on the roster anymore, but it feels like we still have a bunch of JAGs — or maybe even worse — as backups for AJ and Hav.
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I just keep reliving the discussions in here about his red zone play calling and how bad it is? Was? Still is? I would not say he's the best play caller. Best HC, yes.
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DelMar wrote: September 4th, 2025, 7:34 am
49RH8R wrote: September 4th, 2025, 5:57 am

Maybe I'm alone on this but I don't remember that being a huge problem for McVay. His 45-0 record while leading at halftime kind of shows he didn't fall asleep at the wheel at halftime.

And the Pats had the experience and talent and just beat us. It was two all-time greats in Brady and Belichick against a very young and inexperienced McVay and Goff. Our defense was outstanding in that game and almost carried the team.

Anyway, maybe you are right but that doesn't stick out to me.

You just said it yourself... "His 45-0 record WHILE LEADING at halftime".

My point was, when we have been down at halftime in years past... we would usually come out w the same schemes/plays. It drove me nuts. And I think what happened was Mike LaFleur and Chris Shula... AND... McVay started to trust these guys and himself (not to get in the way) and let these guys do their jobs. As far the SB loss to the Pats, dont you recall, we came out doing the same damn thing 2nd half. We played too conservative and didnt expand much on riskier plays... (I do think that was because Gurley didnt perform and Sean did not have a ton of confidence in Goff), but still... we didnt change a damn thing in the second half.

As much as McVay is a brilliant coach, he was just 30 years old when he took the helm. Most 30 year olds would implode. I mean look at Lane Kiffin and what he did w the Raiders when he took the HC spot at age 31... we literally imploded, could not handle the pressure. While McVay took it all in and learned... Kiffin has NOW become a great coach and running a top notch college ranked team... but it took him time and being all over the map to get there... McVay I think took it all in, accepted change and that he couldn't do it alone. Maybe Sean even sucked up some pride along the way, but damn.. how far he has come.

I still do think Seans weak spot is the red zone, but nothing like it was in years past. Last year, while we did improve imo, much of those red zone issues I would also put on Stafford. But Matt has done better as well.

I truly think this season (if we stay healthy and Stafford keeps his back together) THIS is the season we repeat in taking it all the way back to the SB.....And no, this not homerism... I just see it all coming together and I have my reasons... too long to explain in the post. So I'll just let the Rams do the talking.

Go Rams.
Regarding McVay's earlier career, I remember him being more aggressive in the red zone. I love it when teams are ahead but stay aggressive and throw it on 4th and 1 from inside the 10. Or keep slinging the ball because running the ball in a 4 minute offense is too conservative. It might have been his first or second year but he doesn't really do that as much. I don't like getting too conservative with a lead.
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