Are the 49ers in trouble?

[DelMar]

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NFL trade: San Francisco 49ers land wide receiver from Kansas City Chiefs


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[NorCal RF]

NFL trade: San Francisco 49ers land wide receiver from Kansas City Chiefs


https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl/san ... 700f07740b

Example of how desperate they are right now @ WR…….

They are just waiting for some OL to be waived……….

[Slickjack]

I am more concerned about the Card and Seachickens.

Why?

From the most basic perspective, Seachickens had the same record as us last year and always have a great draft (I think Milroe is going to be a weapon). Secondly, AZ should have beaten us twice last year were it not for the miracle INT by Ahkello.

[RamPower]

Why?

From the most basic perspective, Seachickens had the same record as us last year and always have a great draft (I think Milroe is going to be a weapon). Secondly, AZ should have beaten us twice last year were it not for the miracle INT by Ahkello.

SEA could be ok, but I see them as average in the NFL as my guess.

First for me, it’s more about how the Rams finished the year (when finally healthy) in regard to comparing the regular season records (let alone resting our starters in game 2 with SEA).

Also I don’t see Darnold as an improvement over Gino, likely even a step back overall (hopefully).

Regarding SEA drafts, they got some players this year, but I’ve been mostly under-whelmed with their drafting for years…certainly compared to the Rams these last 3 seasons (wherein the Rams really had to focus on it largely rebuilding the roster)…

The game with AZ kinda looked like a team needing a break after a loooong run of basically must-win games to fight back into playoff contention...I think resting the starters against SEA really helped heading into the playoffs.

[Idaho_Ram]

Also I don’t see Darnold as an improvement over Gino, likely even a step back overall (hopefully).

Darnold is not an improvement over Geno...but Klint Kubiak is and improvment over Ryan Grubb. This version of SEA makes me nervous. Their pass blocking is not great - but if the preseason is any indication, they are going to run first and pass efficiently. And their defense has some serious pieces. I'm predicting a split with them this year.

[ocram23]

NFL trade: San Francisco 49ers land wide receiver from Kansas City Chiefs


https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl/san ... 700f07740b

Example of how desperate they are right now @ WR…….

They are just waiting for some OL to be waived……….

wow what a move by the niners??? not sure what they were thinking when they got rid of Deebo. They knew Aiyuk wasn't going to be back until mid season

[bigklein]

SF just signed Brian Robinson for very little: https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49 ... 877710.php

He’s a Jordan Mason replacement.

[DelMar]

With all the movement by the niners, this tells me 2 things:

1. Desperation (because they have very little choices)

2. No continuity

And I LOVE it.

[FelixTheStonerCat]

Also I don’t see Darnold as an improvement over Gino, likely even a step back overall (hopefully).

Darnold is not an improvement over Geno...but Klint Kubiak is and improvment over Ryan Grubb. This version of SEA makes me nervous. Their pass blocking is not great - but if the preseason is any indication, they are going to run first and pass efficiently. And their defense has some serious pieces. I'm predicting a split with them this year.

I ain't worried about them until the actual games start.

[ocram23]

Also I don’t see Darnold as an improvement over Gino, likely even a step back overall (hopefully).

Darnold is not an improvement over Geno...but Klint Kubiak is and improvment over Ryan Grubb. This version of SEA makes me nervous. Their pass blocking is not great - but if the preseason is any indication, they are going to run first and pass efficiently. And their defense has some serious pieces. I'm predicting a split with them this year.

their OL is much better this yr for starters. Darnold threw 35 TD's last year to Geno's 21. Granted the Vikings has way better WR's obviously. I think the loss of DK and Lockett will hurt them big time this year. the huge question mark IMO is our guy Cooper Kupp. If he can somehow stay healthy and bounce back they are going to be tough. Big IF though

[NorCal RF]

Example of how desperate they are right now @ WR…….

They are just waiting for some OL to be waived……….

wow what a move by the niners??? not sure what they were thinking when they got rid of Deebo. They knew Aiyuk wasn't going to be back until mid season

Moore is a 5th receiver on the Rams that the niners need to be their 2nd receiver to start the season………..

Right or wrong they couldn’t wait to get rid of Samuel……………..

They didn’t see Jennings wanting more $ now. I don’t blame him but at the same time I would not give him more $ now if I was the niners. This current “injury” of Jennings I see going on for a while………..

Aiyuk they just said this week, with a few that follow the team, is probably a November return……………..

The niners just seem to be unwilling to get their “strengths” help. CM is still the key for them but they didn’t get more OL help this off season for a unit that is not their strength. Then the genius Shanahan plays Puni last Saturday and then for some reason plays him on ST where he got hurt. Now they are projected to Start a rookie in week one.

They claim Purdy is a strength but again no OL help and they let the WR unit get to where it is now. I like Robinson that they just traded for but fact is he isn’t CM and the more Robinson is on the field the fewer snaps CM gets………………

[NorCal RF]

Darnold is not an improvement over Geno...but Klint Kubiak is and improvment over Ryan Grubb. This version of SEA makes me nervous. Their pass blocking is not great - but if the preseason is any indication, they are going to run first and pass efficiently. And their defense has some serious pieces. I'm predicting a split with them this year.

their OL is much better this yr for starters. Darnold threw 35 TD's last year to Geno's 21. Granted the Vikings has way better WR's obviously. I think the loss of DK and Lockett will hurt them big time this year. the huge question mark IMO is our guy Cooper Kupp. If he can somehow stay healthy and bounce back they are going to be tough. Big IF though

I think Seattle has the potential to be good. HC appears to want to run the ball and be physical on both sides of the ball………

I agree the loss of those 2 WR is going to hurt them………….

We all know Kupp is going to bust his ass up there. But that doesn’t take away from the fact that he rarely gets separation anymore…………

[DelMar]

wow what a move by the niners??? not sure what they were thinking when they got rid of Deebo. They knew Aiyuk wasn't going to be back until mid season

Moore is a 5th receiver on the Rams that the niners need to be their 2nd receiver to start the season………..

Right or wrong they couldn’t wait to get rid of Samuel……………..

They didn’t see Jennings wanting more $ now. I don’t blame him but at the same time I would not give him more $ now if I was the niners. This current “injury” of Jennings I see going on for a while………..

Aiyuk they just said this week, with a few that follow the team, is probably a November return……………..

The niners just seem to be unwilling to get their “strengths” help. CM is still the key for them but they didn’t get more OL help this off season for a unit that is not their strength. Then the genius Shanahan plays Puni last Saturday and then for some reason plays him on ST where he got hurt. Now they are projected to Start a rookie in week one.

They claim Purdy is a strength but again no OL help and they let the WR unit get to where it is now. I like Robinson that they just traded for but fact is he isn’t CM and the more Robinson is on the field the fewer snaps CM gets………………

One thing I have been wondering is, is CM a 100%?. The Achilles and PCL sprains dont easily just go away. I just think he's super prone to getting injured again this season.

https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/inj ... ffrey/7750

[NorCal RF]

Moore is a 5th receiver on the Rams that the niners need to be their 2nd receiver to start the season………..

Right or wrong they couldn’t wait to get rid of Samuel……………..

They didn’t see Jennings wanting more $ now. I don’t blame him but at the same time I would not give him more $ now if I was the niners. This current “injury” of Jennings I see going on for a while………..

Aiyuk they just said this week, with a few that follow the team, is probably a November return……………..

The niners just seem to be unwilling to get their “strengths” help. CM is still the key for them but they didn’t get more OL help this off season for a unit that is not their strength. Then the genius Shanahan plays Puni last Saturday and then for some reason plays him on ST where he got hurt. Now they are projected to Start a rookie in week one.

They claim Purdy is a strength but again no OL help and they let the WR unit get to where it is now. I like Robinson that they just traded for but fact is he isn’t CM and the more Robinson is on the field the fewer snaps CM gets………………

One thing I have been wondering is, is CM a 100%?. The Achilles and PCL sprains dont easily just go away. I just think he's super prone to getting injured again this season.

https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/inj ... ffrey/7750

JMO i don’t think him or Williams get through the season without missing games. Why today’s trade was probably important to them. I do like Guerendo though…………..

[ocram23]

wow what a move by the niners??? not sure what they were thinking when they got rid of Deebo. They knew Aiyuk wasn't going to be back until mid season

Moore is a 5th receiver on the Rams that the niners need to be their 2nd receiver to start the season………..

Right or wrong they couldn’t wait to get rid of Samuel……………..

They didn’t see Jennings wanting more $ now. I don’t blame him but at the same time I would not give him more $ now if I was the niners. This current “injury” of Jennings I see going on for a while………..

Aiyuk they just said this week, with a few that follow the team, is probably a November return……………..

The niners just seem to be unwilling to get their “strengths” help. CM is still the key for them but they didn’t get more OL help this off season for a unit that is not their strength. Then the genius Shanahan plays Puni last Saturday and then for some reason plays him on ST where he got hurt. Now they are projected to Start a rookie in week one.

They claim Purdy is a strength but again no OL help and they let the WR unit get to where it is now. I like Robinson that they just traded for but fact is he isn’t CM and the more Robinson is on the field the fewer snaps CM gets………………

definitely a ride or die this year on CMC. I was joking about Moore... OL is going to be an issue. They can ill afford any injuries on that front. I know Deebo was a diva but unless you address it in the draft, which they didn't, then you are screwed. I think if Pearsall can stay healthy he will have a big year. But as I have said before they lost 9 starters off last year's team.....they won't make the playoffs IMO

[ocram23]

their OL is much better this yr for starters. Darnold threw 35 TD's last year to Geno's 21. Granted the Vikings has way better WR's obviously. I think the loss of DK and Lockett will hurt them big time this year. the huge question mark IMO is our guy Cooper Kupp. If he can somehow stay healthy and bounce back they are going to be tough. Big IF though

I think Seattle has the potential to be good. HC appears to want to run the ball and be physical on both sides of the ball………

I agree the loss of those 2 WR is going to hurt them………….

We all know Kupp is going to bust his ass up there. But that doesn’t take away from the fact that he rarely gets separation anymore…………

I agree. the key to their success this year IMO is going to be Walker and Charbonnet. If they can get going they are going to be a decent team. Walker is always hurt so we will see.

[NorCal RF]

Moore is a 5th receiver on the Rams that the niners need to be their 2nd receiver to start the season………..

Right or wrong they couldn’t wait to get rid of Samuel……………..

They didn’t see Jennings wanting more $ now. I don’t blame him but at the same time I would not give him more $ now if I was the niners. This current “injury” of Jennings I see going on for a while………..

Aiyuk they just said this week, with a few that follow the team, is probably a November return……………..

The niners just seem to be unwilling to get their “strengths” help. CM is still the key for them but they didn’t get more OL help this off season for a unit that is not their strength. Then the genius Shanahan plays Puni last Saturday and then for some reason plays him on ST where he got hurt. Now they are projected to Start a rookie in week one.

They claim Purdy is a strength but again no OL help and they let the WR unit get to where it is now. I like Robinson that they just traded for but fact is he isn’t CM and the more Robinson is on the field the fewer snaps CM gets………………

definitely a ride or die this year on CMC. I was joking about Moore... OL is going to be an issue. They can ill afford any injuries on that front. I know Deebo was a diva but unless you address it in the draft, which they didn't, then you are screwed. I think if Pearsall can stay healthy he will have a big year. But as I have said before they lost 9 starters off last year's team.....they won't make the playoffs IMO

I knew you were on Moore……………….

[49RH8R]

"After the game concluded, 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan took to the podium and provided updates on the status of all three players. He stated that Puni may have a PCL injury, while Taylor has a dislocated shoulder and Kiner is believed to have a high ankle sprain. All three are expected to miss multiple weeks, according to Shanahan.

Puni, 25, is San Francisco's starting right guard, and without him, they turned to Nick Zakelj, who hasn't been great in training camp or the preseason. With Puni and left guard Ben Bartch both down, the 49ers may struggle to stop interior pressure."

And Puni gets hurt on ST in a preseason game. Think about that. Your second best OL,on what is a thin unit, not only plays in a preseason game but plays ST in that same game.

And some put Shanahan on the same tier as McVay……….

Wow. I didn't know he got hurt on a ST play in preseason The Niners are dangerously thin at OL and they did this? What a completely dumb move.

I've always said Shanahan is an overrated coach and I've given my reasons. Choking away big games, botching the QB position (Trey Lance, sure SB winner if they added Brady, Rodgers, Stafford), no winning record until year 6 of his career, and now this. People forget he and Lynch were on the hot seat after their first 2 years.

[NorCal RF]

And Puni gets hurt on ST in a preseason game. Think about that. Your second best OL,on what is a thin unit, not only plays in a preseason game but plays ST in that same game.

And some put Shanahan on the same tier as McVay……….

Wow. I didn't know he got hurt on a ST play in preseason The Niners are dangerously thin at OL and they did this? What a completely dumb move.

I've always said Shanahan is an overrated coach and I've given my reasons. Choking away big games, botching the QB position (Trey Lance, sure SB winner if they added Brady, Rodgers, Stafford), no winning record until year 6 of his career, and now this. People forget he and Lynch were on the hot seat after their first 2 years.

Yep FG team……..

Flag ship for them this past Monday talked about it. They chose their words carefully, again flag ship means homers, but they were questioning what the hell Shanahan was thinking playing him on ST against guys trying to make the Raiders……..

Shanahan has the resume that many get enamored with. But let’s face it anyone who traded for CM was going to look good with their play calling. Fact is Purdy has saved his bleep after he insisted, yes he insisted, they give up 3 firsts for Lance who played how much in college……….

Same person who when he found out Lynch was about ready to trade Aiyuk stormed into Lynch’s office n said no don’t trade him. Same person who said I need Bosa to win so pay him what he wants. Same person who insisted on extending a 36 year old OT even though he still had 3 years remaining on a $$$$$ contract. That is why this off season the rumor was Shanahan was told by the FO we don’t need your input on player’s contracts just coach the roster we give you……….

Again good resume that also reflects big time choke jobs in the 4th quarter in the biggest games………..

[49RH8R]

Wow. I didn't know he got hurt on a ST play in preseason The Niners are dangerously thin at OL and they did this? What a completely dumb move.

I've always said Shanahan is an overrated coach and I've given my reasons. Choking away big games, botching the QB position (Trey Lance, sure SB winner if they added Brady, Rodgers, Stafford), no winning record until year 6 of his career, and now this. People forget he and Lynch were on the hot seat after their first 2 years.

Yep FG team……..

Flag ship for them this past Monday talked about it. They chose their words carefully, again flag ship means homers, but they were questioning what the hell Shanahan was thinking playing him on ST against guys trying to make the Raiders……..

Shanahan has the resume that many get enamored with. But let’s face it anyone who traded for CM was going to look good with their play calling. Fact is Purdy has saved his bleep after he insisted, yes he insisted, they give up 3 firsts for Lance who played how much in college……….

Same person who when he found out Lynch was about ready to trade Aiyuk stormed into Lynch’s office n said no don’t trade him. Same person who said I need Bosa to win so pay him what he wants. Same person who insisted on extending a 36 year old OT even though he still had 3 years remaining on a $$$$$ contract. That is why this off season the rumor was Shanahan was told by the FO we don’t need your input on player’s contracts just coach the roster we give you……….

Again good resume that also reflects big time choke jobs in the 4th quarter in the biggest games………..

Yeah, thanks for listing even more examples. Trent Williams has bullied the Niners into two huge contracts way before they had to pay up. The last one was absolutely ridiculous. I would have told him to pound sand. They lost a bunch of starters in free agency because of all that.

And I couldn't believe the Browns trotted out most of their starters against the Rams. Starting center Ethan Pocic left with a knee injury which could have been a lot more serious. I just don't see the point. It looks like they lost their TE2 as well.

[bigklein]

https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49 ... 0001456fef

McCaffrey’s calf. Deja Vu all over again?

[49RH8R]

https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49 ... 0001456fef

McCaffrey’s calf. Deja Vu all over again?

Personally I think CMC is breaking down and his glory days are over. He's been ridden like a rented mule in both Carolina and SF. If he is already banged up how can he get through a 17-game season? They can spell him a bit but not Trent Williams. I think we'll see TW miss time too as well as Kittle. Aiyuk is out and the defense is full of young new faces. Not sure why the mainstream media loves these guys so much. Some (Derek Carr) even predicted them in the SB.

I picked them to beat Seattle because I'm not sure how Darnold will start off but I think SF will have a long year.

[Raminec]

CMC left practice today. Aggravated his already troublesome CALF INJURY AKA ACHILLES!

[Jacksnow]

CMC left practice today. Aggravated his already troublesome CALF INJURY AKA ACHILLES!

Achilles tendonitis is hard to shake. Not good. Good for Rams.

[bigklein]

Purdy’s toe and more…
https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49 ... 037816.php

Kittle and Jennings…

[ocram23]

Big trouble...Kittle jennings and Purdy hurt.....not good news for them

[NorCal RF]

Big trouble...Kittle jennings and Purdy hurt.....not good news for them

They are damn fortunate they won yesterday. And they play NO this week……..

[ocram23]

Big trouble...Kittle jennings and Purdy hurt.....not good news for them

They are damn fortunate they won yesterday. And they play NO this week……..

you are absolutely right. still have no idea what that DB was doing on that TD play. Darnold did not look good for Seattle. Not sure what they are doing with Walker either

[49RH8R]

Purdy’s toe and more…
https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49 ... 037816.php

Kittle and Jennings…

Kittle could be out for the Rams game since it's on a short week on TNF. Purdy and Jennings nicked up now and a host of other players will get banged up as the season goes on. Purdy could miss next game but it's only NO.

"Kittle is out "a few weeks" after suffering a hamstring injury in the second quarter of Sunday's game. It's not a huge surprise that Kittle will miss significant time. Hamstring injuries are tricky and Kittle was quickly ruled out after visiting the medical tent on the sideline Sunday. The 49ers schedule may force Kittle to miss four games since their Week 5 matchup with the Los Angeles Rams is on a Thursday night and the short week could make it tough for the veteran TE to be ready to suit up. It's still not clear whether Kittle will go on IR. If he did, he'd have to miss a minimum of four weeks."

Myself and several others have seen this coming the whole time. It's just going off previous history. Another non-injury problem that is brewing is K Kake Moody. The 3rd round bust keeps doinking and missing FG's. lol

[NorCal RF]

They are damn fortunate they won yesterday. And they play NO this week……..

you are absolutely right. still have no idea what that DB was doing on that TD play. Darnold did not look good for Seattle. Not sure what they are doing with Walker either

No idea agree. And the DB also on the Pearsall catch on that drive. Both should have been picked.

Purdy still makes bad decisions when under pressure…..

Lions n Rams created the book on Darnell……

I was really surprised how inefficient Seattle’s run game was……

[ocram23]

you are absolutely right. still have no idea what that DB was doing on that TD play. Darnold did not look good for Seattle. Not sure what they are doing with Walker either

No idea agree. And the DB also on the Pearsall catch on that drive. Both should have been picked.

Purdy still makes bad decisions when under pressure…..

Lions n Rams created the book on Darnell……

I was really surprised how inefficient Seattle’s run game was……

yeah thought Seattle would run the ball a lot. I think that was the same DB. Purdy just threw that up for grabs should have been picked off